View Full Version : 660cc's big enough?

05-20-2004, 03:54 PM
im looking to finish up my fuel set up and i got a 255 pump and my s-fac, im runing my 14b and after some more work (act 2600, fpr, 3''mas, porting,2g mani) im gonna run a evo III 16g. iv'e heard that 660's is the biggest i can run with out having to go to stand alone? can i run this turbo fine on this fuel/ can i, or should i go any bigger than 660's with my s-afc?...... thanks

4g63= the replacment for displacment

05-20-2004, 04:18 PM
Not having to, but without something like DSMLink or a standalone you'll loose a bit on the low end with tune-ability. And driveability suffers accross the spectrum with out said products.

05-20-2004, 05:03 PM
Run the car the way it is right now until you can get DSMLink or an EMS.

I'll put it this way. I barely have to lean out my 720s on the evo16. That means its eating a lot of fuel for the air its giving me. An AFC isn't going to cut it.

05-20-2004, 06:10 PM
all it takes is a chip to get big injectors back into happy land on a 1g. MUCH better than tuning via the AFC. Used to be no bigger than 660s with afc alone but now with chips it's no longer true.

05-20-2004, 06:12 PM
Some day when I get time I'll make a post about tuning and why these different devices don't work in certain cases and how each product works so people can get a better idea of what best suits their needs.

05-20-2004, 06:14 PM
Let me know what you want to know about chips Jake. I can do anything. Timing, fuel, etc.

Like DSMLink but with more work required and no on the fly adjustment. Very cool if you've got the skills and cheap!

05-22-2004, 01:11 PM
thanks soo does that mean that for my evoIII16g that i should go 720cc's/chip?......and has anyone tried the chips from ongreenperformance i was checking those out?

05-22-2004, 01:55 PM
660s are plenty for a 16g. If you are serious about going bigger in the future then get the 720s and a chip. ONLY get a chip from dsmchips.com at the moment. They are the only one I trust. There is some potential for local chip help but if you're in a hurry I'd order from DSMchips.com. Jeff is amazing and you'll get the support you need as well.

05-22-2004, 08:56 PM
660s are plenty for an ordinary 16g. Personally, I would get bigger for an EVO16.

I have posted/logged airflow up here that most 20g/50trim guys are seeing.

The nice thing about DSM technology today is you can run what ever injector you want. I could run 1000ccs if I wanted too. I chose 720s for the expandability. I could run an FP Green or an FP 3052 and not have to worry about upgrading the fuel system.

Just food for thought.

05-23-2004, 02:17 AM
i just wanna say thanks felllas i go to allota forums for dsm's and i gotta say this one is one of the best ill put it up with dsmtuner.com just cause the feedback is never negative/ just wanna say thanx

4g63= the replacment for displacment:D

05-23-2004, 09:24 AM
Danger Will Robinson! Someone compared us with T00ners!