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Mtndragon
11-20-2004, 08:55 PM
Does anyone know whether this product is compatible with other brands of giggle gas systems? ( NOS, ZEX, Nitrous Works, Viper... ) and what types? wet/dry/etc...
I was considering a NOS brand Sportsman Fogger for V8's so I have 2 per cyl. with alot of flexibility... would NX's "Maximizer" control such a system from my entry-level newby-ass current situation to what I hope to eventually step up to? :cool:
fusionsport
11-20-2004, 11:33 PM
According to NX it will work with any basic system, BUT they are pretty adamant about thier solenoids being of better quality. Using a system such as this shortens the life of the solenoid, and the solenoids need to be inspected fairly often if you are using one. NX sells all of the parts to rebuild the solenoids as well.
You're describing a "two stage" system.
While it would work, there are better ways to achieve the same goal.
N/X sells foggers which hold two sets of jets. You can than have two stages, but you only have to install one set of foggers.
The older Maximizer is actually better for a multi-stage setup. It can "throttle up" the first stage and turn on the second stage.
The newer Maximizer does not support a second stage, nor does it really need to since you can get the same effect using a larger single stage.
DlandryTSI
11-21-2004, 07:00 AM
Does anyone know whether this product is compatible with other brands of giggle gas systems? ( NOS, ZEX, Nitrous Works, Viper... ) and what types? wet/dry/etc...
You can control other vendors nitrous solenoids but be carefull. According to FJO (the ones that helped build this product) each vendor has its own frequency range if you plan on using the stepping functions.
For example NX uses 14 hz. Other vendors might use 20-30 hz. This is adjustable but not documented as to who uses what.
If you want to use the maximizer then why not just go with a complete NX setup?
--Dave
Mtndragon
11-21-2004, 08:59 AM
A fogger system would offer me the MOST in terms of versatility, cost:benefit, and overall tuning/performance, don't you agree? NOS brand's Sportsman Fogger system for V8's is a direct port set up and is adjustable from 50 - 250
Cost is only about $650
-less than that of others' BASIC wet systems for our cars
Actually, besides ramping up large doses for drag use, I'm looking at the Maximizer as something that could be tuned for road race purpose as well
Can you select between various programs "on the fly" with it? for example settings for road race / settings for drag race / etc... or would different setups require stopping to reprogram?
Do you have an NOS part number for this kit.
I *suspect* it's a single fogger system rather than a direct port.
At $650 it's not likely to be a multi-stage or direct port.
Also, there is a LOT more to a complete N2o setup than what comes in a basic kit.
Mtndragon
11-21-2004, 10:36 AM
yeah, actually I think it is
Part # is: "NOS-05088" product name is "Sportsman Fogger" it is sold by Summit/ Jeg's/various vendors...
Now, I know it's intended for V8's (it is supplied with 8 nozzles)
but couldn't this be used 2 per cylinder for our 4cyl's?
what do you think
It's a 8 cylinder, single stage, direct port.
You would need a second set of solenoids to use more than 4 foggers unless all 8 spray at the same time.
For racing, you will need a nitrous blow-off vent tube.
For consistent operation you will need a bottle heater.
You should also have a nitrous pressure gauge and a fuel pressure gauge.
I'm surprised you can get a direct port setup for such a low price.
Mtndragon
11-21-2004, 10:54 AM
since it is FOR 8cyl's, all 8 spray... right? with the NX Maximizer could you customize where 4spray and then ramp up to all 8 spraying/vice versa?
Mtndragon
11-21-2004, 10:59 AM
yeah, that seems like a great price for such a N20 system, but that price seems pretty consistent from various sources, and they've sold this product for quite a while (I discovered it in an OLD dog eared Jeg's catalog)
this one might have to go on my Christmas List (my wife & kids alway's DID wanted one of these :D )
milehightalon
11-21-2004, 11:24 AM
since it is FOR 8cyl's, all 8 spray... right? with the NX Maximizer could you customize where 4spray and then ramp up to all 8 spraying/vice versa?
Not without additional solenoids. Those 8 ports are controlled by a single solenoid. You would need a second solenoid to be able to control 2 sets of 4 jets.
Mtndragon
11-21-2004, 11:30 AM
worth looking into further, or un-necessary complication?
opinions?
fusionsport
11-21-2004, 11:55 AM
worth looking into further, or un-necessary complication?
opinions?
personally I wouldnt runa 2-stage IF you are going to get close to your goals on turbo alone. Running a large shot over a small turbo only kills the turbo. Do a lot of research before mixing power adders. As an example- the EVO I am building right now has a direct port setup on it, but only jetted as a 100 shot, because I feel we will make our power on turbo alone.
fusionsport
11-21-2004, 11:56 AM
Not without additional solenoids. Those 8 ports are controlled by a single solenoid. You would need a second solenoid to be able to control 2 sets of 4 jets.
you would need two SETS of solenoids- and depending on shot size fuel volume/pressure comes dramatically into play
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