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18GSpyder
12-18-2005, 09:55 AM
i just insalled some tein flex and i want to know how far can i drop the car and stay in factory specs

hooptytalon
12-18-2005, 09:38 PM
You wants specs for what year, make, model, trim, and drive configuration?
I assume a Spyder?

18GSpyder
12-18-2005, 10:00 PM
98 eclipse GS-t spyder

hooptytalon
12-19-2005, 08:33 PM
Front Caster: 4.67* +/- 1.5
Front Camber: -.08* +/- .5
Front Toe: 0.0* +/- .24
Turning Angle: 32.5/27* +/- 2
Rear Camber: -1.33* +/- .5 (on 17" wheel) -1.7* +/- .5 (16" wheel)
Rear Toe: .24* +/- .24

18GSpyder
12-19-2005, 08:35 PM
thanks for the specs but do you know how much of a drop you can go without getting out of factory specs?

hooptytalon
12-19-2005, 08:42 PM
I don't know how low you can go but as a rule of thumb it's good practice for your car and your tires to align the car after making any changes to the suspension geometry.

18GSpyder
12-19-2005, 09:35 PM
I don't know how low you can go but as a rule of thumb it's good practice for your car and your tires to align the car after making any changes to the suspension geometry.

I know I have to get an alignment but without a camber kit you can only lower so much and still stay in fac. spec.

hooptytalon
12-19-2005, 09:40 PM
I know I have to get an alignment but without a camber kit you can only lower so much and still stay in fac. spec.
Camber can also be adjusted by slotting the lower strut mounting bolt holes.

18GSpyder
12-19-2005, 09:45 PM
Camber can also be adjusted by slotting the lower strut mounting bolt holes.

I understand all the ways to do camber and whatnot what I am looking for is with zero modification besides lowering springs how low can I go without being out of spec?

Mirage
12-19-2005, 09:55 PM
Only way to tell is to gradually drop it while it's on the alignment rack. Every car is different on the alignment settings.

I wouldn't go too much lower than stock though. Front struts have a habit of blowing from bottoming out.

Marcus

TheJackal
12-19-2005, 09:57 PM
It depends on your current specs to judge. Nobody will be able to tell you because it depends on so many things, actual vehicle weight, if its been in accidents, how worn the bushings are, ect.. I mean its kinda like asking what velocity must a bullet be shot at a 37 degree angle to hit x spot in x wind, you just cant guess it, you will need to experiement and change from there. Just lower it to where you want (within reason), go and get an alignment and see what your specs are, then fix them if you want. Too much camber isnt bad it will just give you bad wear on your tires. Race cars sometimes run like -3 degrees or more of camber for better turn it and handling.

18GSpyder
12-19-2005, 11:58 PM
It depends on your current specs to judge. Nobody will be able to tell you because it depends on so many things, actual vehicle weight, if its been in accidents, how worn the bushings are, ect.. I mean its kinda like asking what velocity must a bullet be shot at a 37 degree angle to hit x spot in x wind, you just cant guess it, you will need to experiement and change from there. Just lower it to where you want (within reason), go and get an alignment and see what your specs are, then fix them if you want. Too much camber isnt bad it will just give you bad wear on your tires. Race cars sometimes run like -3 degrees or more of camber for better turn it and handling.

I see what you are saying but the bullet example is a little off because with bullets there are formulas to plug everything into. ie: firearm, projectile velocity, wind, trajectory etc. you just plug the numbers in and you will know where the bullet is going to impact. Although that said you dont typically shot at a specific angle either, you adjust your angle depending on distance, and the trajectory of the projectile. Being a sniper I deal with this very regularly. But I do see what you are saying. Thanks for the info.

TheJackal
12-20-2005, 02:50 AM
Man I suck at spelling today. If you do, do that, make sure you tell the alignment tech to write down the specs for you.

18GSpyder
12-20-2005, 06:26 AM
after doing somemore research I am gonna get some tein flex so the front camber is adjustable and I am also gonna get the ingalls rear camber kit so I can drop it where I want and set the camber where I want. Thanks again for the help!

TheJackal
12-29-2005, 11:37 PM
after doing somemore research I am gonna get some tein flex so the front camber is adjustable and I am also gonna get the ingalls rear camber kit so I can drop it where I want and set the camber where I want. Thanks again for the help!


Well when you get it all on, Make sure the alignment tech knows how to adjust all that. They are used to stock points and hardly see that stuff..

18GSpyder
12-30-2005, 06:11 AM
Yeah I am taking to a place in El Paso I was told about that deals with race suspensions.