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blackdsm91
06-22-2006, 11:05 PM
Need some help on this one...
Will the '93-'94 awd dual piston calipers fit a '98 fwd? I'm pretty sure they will, what needs to be changed? I've talk to two different people and one said it can't be done and other said that something small needs to be done...but I forgot what.
Thanks for your help.
Mirage
06-22-2006, 11:10 PM
Yes, they will fit. However, the brake line connection is different. Everything else is identical.
1g (1992-1994) big brake calipers use a screw in fitting. The 2g (1995-1999) big calipers use a banjo bolt connection.
I personally have 2g calipers on my 1g using 2g brake lines and found it easy enough to adapt. I don't know 2g suspension well enough to say if it would be easy enough to adapt 1g brake lines to it.
Marcus
blackdsm91
06-22-2006, 11:24 PM
Ok...now I can breath easier....
So what if I get SS lines....w/screw in....will that work...? Or it'll work on the calipers but not on the car...?
ba109296
06-23-2006, 02:30 AM
If you want I have the exact lines that you need. They have the screw in fitting to fit the 1g calipers and the other end has the fitting to fit right up to the 2g. I bought these to do the same thing to my fwd but then went ahead and bought an awd. They are brand new in the packaging they came in. If you are interested I will sell them to you cheaper than you will get from a dealer with discount. Email or pm me.
email is brandon1978_9@comcast.net
Brandon
blackdsm91
06-23-2006, 12:29 PM
If you want I have the exact lines that you need. They have the screw in fitting to fit the 1g calipers and the other end has the fitting to fit right up to the 2g. I bought these to do the same thing to my fwd but then went ahead and bought an awd. They are brand new in the packaging they came in. If you are interested I will sell them to you cheaper than you will get from a dealer with discount. Email or pm me.
email is brandon1978_9@comcast.net
Brandon
Email sent...
blackdsm91
06-23-2006, 12:31 PM
Take the old ones off, put new ones in, bleed and that's it....rite?
95TSIAWD
06-23-2006, 04:02 PM
I would let them gravity bleed (just open the bleeder screw until they start to drip, you may have to get a little suction on them to start them, maybe not), then do the old fasion bleed method. Unless you have one of those fancy vaccuum bleeders (makes it a LOT easier).
blackdsm91
06-23-2006, 04:06 PM
LOL...i'll have to check on that "facny bleeder" I think I know someone w/one. If not, anyone has one I could borrow?
ba109296
06-23-2006, 09:34 PM
Bleeding all depends on what you have. If you have abs then gravity bleeding will not work. This is when you want to have a power bleeder because even bleeding it the old fashioned way doesn't do the best job. If you have non abs then its a little easier, the best way is to get a container, put a tube from the bleeder screw into the container with enough brake fluid to keep the tube submerged and then do the pump method. This is the easiest way to do it if you don't have a friend over. Another thing to remember when you are doing this is you have to make sure to put something under the brake pedal so that you don't hit the floorboard with the brake pedal. When you do this it overextends the master cylinder rod and will cause premature failure with the master cylinder. Really bleeding brakes is pretty easy but often is done wrong.
While you are doing this you should probably look into changing all your brake fluid, since it probably hasn't been changed since the first time it was filled. Bleeding the master cylinder sometimes helps but usually isn't needed unless you unhook it or mess with the lines near it.
You should let us know what the result in the upgrade is and possibly take pics and do a rightup on it.
Brandon
blackdsm91
06-23-2006, 10:12 PM
Bleeding all depends on what you have. If you have abs then gravity bleeding will not work. This is when you want to have a power bleeder because even bleeding it the old fashioned way doesn't do the best job. If you have non abs then its a little easier, the best way is to get a container, put a tube from the bleeder screw into the container with enough brake fluid to keep the tube submerged and then do the pump method. This is the easiest way to do it if you don't have a friend over. Another thing to remember when you are doing this is you have to make sure to put something under the brake pedal so that you don't hit the floorboard with the brake pedal. When you do this it overextends the master cylinder rod and will cause premature failure with the master cylinder. Really bleeding brakes is pretty easy but often is done wrong.
While you are doing this you should probably look into changing all your brake fluid, since it probably hasn't been changed since the first time it was filled. Bleeding the master cylinder sometimes helps but usually isn't needed unless you unhook it or mess with the lines near it.
You should let us know what the result in the upgrade is and possibly take pics and do a rightup on it.
Brandon
Wow...good explain......want to help me out sometime?? :D :D
I don't have the tools or space to do it....so I'll have to see how my friends schedule is, so it probably won't be till sometime next week or weekend.
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