Tranny question!

[boosthard91]

I am looking at a talon tsi with 160,000. He says it runs strong but needs a tranny. If i get it, i would be doing a sheptrans stage 1 or 2 rebuild. How hard is it to remove, rebuild, and put the tranny back in?

[ba109296]

How hard is it to remove, rebuild, and put the tranny back in?

Removing and putting it back in only takes a few hours if you don't know what you are doing and less if you do.
Rebuilding it isn't all that hard either if you have someone showing you how and has done it before. I did mine with help from a very nice person and it works great. If you plan on actually doing much with your car and getting into all the stuff I would strongly recommend learning how to do it all. Most places charge alot because of the labor, if you do it yourself it will cost you alot less for the same thing.
Also whoever you go through ask if there is any kind of warranty and if you can get it in writting. I have got screwed bigtime over this in the past.
Good luck and if you need anything I will try to answer your questions.

[boosthard91]

Thank you very much for your help. :D If i end up getting this car im sure i will be asking more questions. Thanks again.

[DlandryTSI]

Plan on spending a weekend doing the work. Especially if you have not done this type of work before.

--Dave

[fusionsport]

Rebuilding a trans to stock specs isnt hard and pretty much anyone with the time and tools can do it. HOWEVER- and let me stress that again- HOWEVER- there are specific preloads etc that professional trans builders will use to make your transmission function perfectly for your application. I highly recommend that if you are looking for a transmission you consult Jack down in the Springs as he is fairly priced and stands 100% behind his work.His "basic" transmission is pretty much equal to anyone elses stage1 and is more than fairly priced. His information is here: www.jackstransmissions.com

[ba109296]

Well you stated some true things and not so true. He will not stand behind his work 100 percent and this has been gone over and over. That is the reason to get a written warranty. Also Jack is not a professional tranny builder because he has no qualifications as such. If a person wanted to do the preloads all they have to do is do some searching and all the factory preloads are given and actually an exact way to get them is also given. I am not a pro in the least and the person that showed me and I got the preloads exact. Stock or mildly upgraded transmissions are easy to do.

PLease don't turn this into a mud slinging contest again. I stated facts and kept it at that. Please do the same and refrain from turning this thread into something personal and keep it as informative.

[amcdermo]

Well you stated some true things and not so true. He will not stand behind his work 100 percent and this has been gone over and over. That is the reason to get a written warranty. Also Jack is not a professional tranny builder because he has no qualifications as such. If a person wanted to do the preloads all they have to do is do some searching and all the factory preloads are given and actually an exact way to get them is also given. I am not a pro in the least and the person that showed me and I got the preloads exact. Stock or mildly upgraded transmissions are easy to do.

PLease don't turn this into a mud slinging contest again. I stated facts and kept it at that. Please do the same and refrain from turning this thread into something personal and keep it as informative.
there is so much BS in your thread its nuts... Don't post on things you don't know about. What is your definition of a professional tranny builder? Mine is a person who does it for a living and does it well. This is jack. He builds lots and lots of them, with great results.

[fusionsport]

Well you stated some true things and not so true. He will not stand behind his work 100 percent and this has been gone over and over. That is the reason to get a written warranty. Also Jack is not a professional tranny builder because he has no qualifications as such. If a person wanted to do the preloads all they have to do is do some searching and all the factory preloads are given and actually an exact way to get them is also given. I am not a pro in the least and the person that showed me and I got the preloads exact. Stock or mildly upgraded transmissions are easy to do.

PLease don't turn this into a mud slinging contest again. I stated facts and kept it at that. Please do the same and refrain from turning this thread into something personal and keep it as informative.


What I stated was the absolute truth, if you have EVIDENCE to support a different story by all means gather it up, proceed to court, and stand by your statements. Until then, I would refrain from making comments that are not in any way true and factual.

The facts are that Jack is a professional transmission builder and has hundreds of "built" transmissions to his credit. Having driven transmissions from the "big three"- TRE, Shep, and Jack, I prefer the Jack built transmission. AFAIK he is the only trans builders for our cars that actually has built a device to bench test the trans to make 100% sure it is what it needs to be, and so that if there is any sort of issue it is corrected before it leaves the shop.

Factory preloads, like other factory specifications, are for stock power levels and "normal" use. For performance applications there are improvements to be made, most of which no professional will share with the non-paying public.

As stated above, pretty much anyone can rebuild a transmission with a manual and some time, and the appropraitte tools. However, for a functioning racing transmission you are better off paying a professional like Jack to build you what will work for your specific application.

Lastly, Jack stands behind his product 100%, period, end of list. Recently a fellow ran a gearbox without oil, which of course turned the gearbox into a nice assortment of molten metal. Jack replaced the burned parts and rebuilt the entire gearbox out of his own pocket. In another instance, a fellow bought a shortblock Jack had built a couple of years earlier from someone who had never installed it. The motor crankwalked almost instantly. Jack rebuilt the engine only to find that another issue had caused the motor to walk. In the end Jack went through about 8000 in parts before the car was tight, ahich is far and above the 1500 pricetag the original shortblock had been sold for, and this for a fellow who wasnt even the original purchaser! No other company would have done anything close to what Jack did in either case.

[Hal]

All right, this is starting to get out of hand.

Let's get back to the original topic please.

[Jack(IAT)]

I am looking at a talon tsi with 160,000. He says it runs strong but needs a tranny. If i get it, i would be doing a sheptrans stage 1 or 2 rebuild. How hard is it to remove, rebuild, and put the tranny back in?

It's difficult to know how hard it will be for you since we do not know how mechanically inclined you are. I would say if you have ever done a clutch job on a FWD car, your AWD will be a little harder, but not too bad. It all comes down to how comfortable you are with it. The first time you do remove the unit it will not be very enjoyable. It just takes some practice.

As far as the rebuild goes, that's simple. You have a good number of people that can rebuild the unit for you- RRE, Shep, TRE, myself, etc. If you decide to tackle the rebuild on your own, TRE, Shep, and myself would be more than happy to sell you parts, or machine any parts you want modified. If I didn't rebuild trannies, and had to get a unit from someone else, it would be Shep. I think your rebuild will go nice and smooth with a good choice like Shep.

Install will be harder than removal. Just take your time and make sure you have all the tranny to block dowel pins in place and use all the bell-housing to block bolts. If you have any bolts left over, make sure you find where they went.

Good-luck! ...sorry for all the garbage in your thread above there.

Jack

[buckley]

Removing a transmission and putting it back in is not a big deal IF you have the right stuff to do it.. Just don't do it with Jackstands and your body to catch the fall of the tranny..

Jack does amazing work and stands by his work. If you go anywhere with your transmission, go to Jack. I had some problems with burnt syncros when I got mine back from Jack but he immediately replaced them, no questions asked.

buckley

[Jack(IAT)]

Thanks Buckley, ancdermo, outlawdsm, and fusionsport for the kind words!

On a side note- to prevent locked threads, annoyed admins and aggravation to forum users, Brandon’s persistent and slanderous posts will no longer be replied to by me. Instead, you can just view the link below if you wish to know what is going on:

http://www.jackstransmissions.com/dissatisfaction.php

I will only post this link and nothing else on any thread he decides to harm myself and my business in. Thanks!

Jack

[ba109296]

Nice one Jack. Your whole thing about me on your site is just lies and bs. I paid 50 bucks less than full price because I brought parts. You did give a full verbal warranty. How many excuses are you going to make for not honoring it? You told me on the phone that it was because I was a jerk. So its either that or you didn't honor it because of something that you "heard" from someone?? Now thats the way a good business is run. The only good thing about this is you will keep running your business like a kid and eventually run yourself into the ground.
Oh yea I didn't get booted from codsm for threatening anyone, it happened because I liked to talk crap about you. It must be nice having a sites admins in your pocket, concidering you but your parts from the same person.

[amcdermo]

Nice one Jack. Your whole thing about me on your site is just lies and bs. I paid 50 bucks less than full price because I brought parts. You did give a full verbal warranty. How many excuses are you going to make for not honoring it? You told me on the phone that it was because I was a jerk. So its either that or you didn't honor it because of something that you "heard" from someone?? Now thats the way a good business is run. The only good thing about this is you will keep running your business like a kid and eventually run yourself into the ground.
Oh yea I didn't get booted from codsm for threatening anyone, it happened because I liked to talk crap about you. It must be nice having a sites admins in your pocket, concidering you but your parts from the same person.
its odd to me how hundreds of people have had no issues with jack or his transmissions except for you.. personally i think you are just a douchebag with a fatal attraction.

[ba109296]

Personally noob why don't you stay the heck out of things that little boys shouldn't really be in.
And yes I know who you are but you are still acting like a noob.
Admins I expect this person to be warned, this is not his deal and his language leaves something to be desired.

[DlandryTSI]

ENOUGH both of you. Yet another thread down the tubes.

If you guys can't keep this crap of of RMDSM then don't post it.

--Dave

[Hal]

If have removed posts which I feel were inflammatory or which didn't contribute to the thread.

Hal