SMC Alchohol Injection

[XakEp]

http://www.geocities.com/rad87gn/tech/SteveCkit.html

What do you guys think??? I think this would be better than just getting a bigger turbo...

Edit - This thing will work with a DSM.. The guy on the phone said that the only trick was to find a place to mount the tank... Course he also hadnt done it himself so he didnt know where to mount it.. Personally I think that this is a great idea, especially the pressure switch!!!

[hoffman]

so whats wrong with the aquamist kit?

[XakEp]

1) Never heard of the Aquamist kit

2) I'm not THAT much of a do it yourselfer.. I'd rather just buy the kit...

[hoffman]

aquamist is "the" kit for the DSMer.

Hal has all the info on it (personal expeirence and all). some day i hope to add it to my mod list.

[Super Talon]

hey quinn i thought you wanted to sprey the innercooler, not the intake and motor...

[DlandryTSI]

You need to look at your long term goals with the car. One day if you do put an FMIC on the car you probly won't be able to boost very high with the 16g. Also the 16g does put out quite a bit of hot air....

--Dave

[XakEp]

I've been told and heard that the 16G stops producing power at 23 psi... I dont want to put a FMIC on the car because that would keep it from looking stock.. I'm hoping to be able to push 20 psi with the 16G and run 91 octane gas... Certainly doable if i'm using alchohol injection...

Hal, whats your take on this?

[Hal]

Over boosting is counter productive for several reasons:

1) It stresses the turbo by over spinning it, reducing it's life
2) It makes the I/C less effective because the incoming air is hotter

I don't see the 16g as a serious drag turbo. It's a great street/strip turbo.

At this altitude, in a full weight car... it's a 13 second turbo (for most drivers).

You can spray the I/C on the street. Do it and the track, and get caught... you'll get kicked out. That water winds up on the track and makes it dangerous for the next car/bike to run in your lane.

Aquamist is a great kit... period. www.aquamist.co.uk

[bquinn]

I have a ported and clipped big 16g and I went 12.86 @ 109 missing second at only 17 lbs. of boost. I got all my stuff from Buschur and Tim down there said at this altitude at 22 lbs. of boost it should hit high 11's no problem. I'm also getting the stage 3 setup from TMO and a better blow-off valve so Im can go to 22. I think the 16g is a turbo good enough to go mid 11's on. I'm also lifting in between shifts but that wil change when I get the setup from TMO.

[Hal]

I said 16g not a big 16g.

You will NOT run 11's on a 16g in a FULL weight DSM at this altitude.

Gabe was able to put his into the LOW 12's and his car was gutted... and boost was falling off on the top end.

Also, driver ability plays a big part in E/T's... which is why I said "for most people".

You will find that the "experts" have NO clue about how the altitude here effects 16g's. To make 17 psi here, a turbo has to work as hard as a sea level turbo making 20 psi.

That means at this altitude, a 16g is out of it's "sweet spot" a LOT sooner.

The only 16g cars to hit 11's (or even come close at bandimere) used N2o to make up for lack of top end air flow.

Remember, boost is a measure of air flow... or rather the lack there of. The more power the motor makes (the more air it can ingest), the harder it is for a turbo to hold boost on the top end.

Finally, don't forget about the effects of temperature. You can run better early (and later) in the season. The power loss on a 90 degree day vs a 40 degree day is (in my car) 10%.

Hal

[hoffman]

10%....wow. i think everyone feels it in the car when driveing in december as opposed to july.

even though the 2S kit is a W/I kit. could it handle an alcohol/water mix? i think i remeber reading somewhere about the blue washer fluid from pepboys...etc. but wouldn't the alcohol induce more corrosive chemicals into the pump?

[Hal]

The aquamist web site has some info on using alcohol with it.

I suspect it's less susceptable than other kits because of the use of stainless steel in the pump and jets.

[bquinn]

I'm taking my car to the import nationals in september and maybe a test and tune before that. I will have the computer and the BOV and will turn up the boost a little bit. There is no N2o on the car and it still has full interior, ac, cruise, nothing touched. I will let ypu know what test and tune and you should come. I think the car will be capable of high 11's on a good run.