should i switch to m/t

[mostsi]

i have a 92 tsi that is an a/t. everybody is saying it wil still make power. i am just tired of getting smoked off the launch. people see the all wheel drive and just laugh after the so called race. i work for a salvge yard so i can get the parts for the swap cheap. i just want to know is it even worth the time and hassle or should i say embarrasment.

[Van]

I'd say sell that car and get a real m/t dsm.

[sbiggi]

if you get smoked off the launch then you dont know how to drive... no offense or anything, but I've pulled many 2.0 60 ft, and my brothers pulled a couple 1.9's with a stock auto....

you know how to power brake right?? Hold brake as hard as you can and mash the gas...then let off the brake, I was launching 3000 rpm underfull boost when power braking...

and yes an Auto can make power.... my brothers TSI should be up and running in a week.... makes the same power as any other DSM with the same mods and is literally only a fraction of a second slower than a Manual transmission

[mostsi]

how in the world are you getting 2.0s and 1.9s out of an auto?whan i power brake mine i think i'm sitting at like a little over 2k rpms.no offense taking but i can drive. i got y buddys 98' gsx to run a 14.7 on stock everything. am i doing something wrong withthe auto? tell me how your brothers is setup!

[hoffman]

higher stall converter.

and theres nothing wrong with an a/t. there are even a few running very low 10s.

[v413nc3]

a stall converter set at about 5,000 rpm should do you just fine :)

[mostsi]

do they make stall converters set for 5000 rpms? i got some 550 injectors put in and a custom exhaust. should i turn up the boost know or wait for the stall converter? i'm boosting 11psi know. would 17 be ok?

[v413nc3]

I'm sure if you dig around DSMTalk you'll find links to places that make stalled torque converters for your trans.

[Van]

Originally posted by mostsi
do they make stall converters set for 5000 rpms? i got some 550 injectors put in and a custom exhaust. should i turn up the boost know or wait for the stall converter? i'm boosting 11psi know. would 17 be ok?

Maybe this is just me, but in the interest of preserving my sanity I notice that you are asking about a 5000 rpm stall converter and turning up the boost from 11 psi and wanting to know if 17 psi would be ok...
In my world those three sentences should not occur in the same paragraph. I know, call me crazy.

I'm not trying to be rude, but I'm seriously wondering if you actually know what a 5000 rpm stall converter will do to your DSM?
And then I'm wondering if you have a datalogger so that you can actually confirm what boost you CAN run with your set-up.

[mostsi]

i am new at this why don't you feel me in on what it will do my dsm VAN.

[sbiggi]

his transmission was stock.... and I could power brake it up too 3000 rpm... it just takes a while

I would start powerbraking before tripping the first light....then carefully edge forward.... but all torque converts arent the same, yours might just stall lower

and a large tranny cooler is a must....power braking really heats things up, after doing it a couple times in a row, the stock one cant do enough

and a highstall converter cost around $1000... not cheap
guys on DSMTalk run 4000 rpm stalls with no ill side effects.... a 4000 rpm stall doesnt mean the car doest move till 4000rpm its just not fully locked

[sbiggi]

are you still on the stock turbo??? I wouldnt go past 15 psi on that little hairdrier, thats how we blew up our first engine...... no datalogger, too much boost, too little of a turbo = detonation..... leads to broken parts, ie broken rod

and that was with a fuel pump upgrade, 450 cc injectors, maual ecu and manual FPR... fuel wasnt an issue, just to much boost

[v413nc3]

upgrading the turbo to a larger one wouldn't mean that, you mean too much heat, causing pre-det... meaning fuel WAS an issue... by adding more fuel you effectively increase the overal octane mixture and lower the combustability of the mixture thus reducing the chance for predet. Granted a larger turbo running the same boost level doesn't produce as much heat normally, thus causing more CFM to flow at lower temps and less of a chance of predet, but you can run high boost on a small turbo or any other turbo for that matter as long as you have the correct fuel setup and intercooler.

[sbiggi]

yup... i meant heat... the stock intercooler couldnt handle much more than 16 psi on that turbo cause it blew to much hot air..... and I tried some pretty high octane to no avail, of course we didnt have anything to tune with (AFC or otherwise) but i know it was rich, possibly to rich